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Mar 13, 2019 9:10 AM
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Proof that gun control doesn't work, made even worse by a country that's already full of street crime and corruption.


Mar 13, 2019 10:25 AM
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I knew the first post was going to be retarded before clicking on the thread.
What a shame.

I can see you


Mar 13, 2019 10:45 AM
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lol anecdotal incidents like this is proof that gun control does not work huh when studies shows overall that gun control works if properly done that is
Mar 13, 2019 12:03 PM
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local news report 8 dead, 2 of them being school employees.
source: https://istoe.com.br/tiros-deixam-oito-feridos-em-escola-de-suzano/
apparently, one of the suspects was expelled from school last year, for whatever reason.
police is still investigating.

edit:

Segundo relatou a VEJA um grupo de estudantes em frente ao local, um dos rapazes – Guilherme Taucci Monteiro, de 17 anos – ameaçou seus colegas há três dias, em um shopping, e os avisou para “ficarem espertos”. Segundo esse mesmo jovem, que pulou o muro e fugiu no momento dos tiros, o atirador não sofria bullying e publicava fotos com armas nas redes sociais. Em um de seus perfis, o atirador se identificava como “Guilherme Alan” e postou uma foto com máscara e arma antes do ataque.

https://veja.abril.com.br/brasil/atirador-era-aluno-da-escola-em-suzano-dizem-colegas/

so according to a student, Guilherme Monteiro threatened to kill the other students 3 days before and told them to remain vigilant. (because he may start shooting at any moment's notice)
according to the same guy, Guilherme was not bullied and would photos of his weapons on social media.

edit: well, it didnt take very long before politicians started blaming video games.

O vice continuou: “Hoje a gente vê essa garotada viciada em videogames e videogames violentos. Só isso que fazem. Quando eu era criança e adolescente, jogava bola, soltava pipa, jogava bola de gude, hoje não vemos mais essas coisas. É isso que temos que estar preocupados”.

https://veja.abril.com.br/brasil/mourao-sobre-massacre-essas-coisas-nao-aconteciam-no-brasil/

The vice president said that "nowadays all these kids are addicted to videogames and violent videogames. thats all they do (i.e. play violent videogames). when i was a child and a teen, i used to play ball, kite, etc (im not sure how to say bola de gude in english, but its small balls kids used when playing together). nowadays we dont see them playing with balls, kite, etc anymore. thats what we should be worried about."
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Mar 13, 2019 12:56 PM
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Of course our old ass leaders stuck 4+ decades in the past are gonna blame video games for this shit. I mean, our current president is the kind that still thinks homosexuality has anything to do with bad parenting for fucks sake.
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Mar 13, 2019 2:29 PM
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RIP

RT reported incorrect information. I only see 8 or 9 dead in all other sources I'm finding but that's just in English
https://www.apnews.com/931c1840bfe24a3ea076cf667fc77324


Hoppy said:
Proof that gun control doesn't work, made even worse by a country that's already full of street crime and corruption.

Street crime is a result of poor living conditions for the lowest in any given country, not lack of guns. Because the crime it's easy to get guns illegally so there is no shortage of guns there. Also Bolsonaro recently laxed the gun laws.
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Mar 13, 2019 8:06 PM
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update: the two men were reportedly inspired by the gun violence in the US.


update 2: according to the 17-year old mother, the youngster was bullied in school. she also denied that video games might have influenced his decision to carry the attack.


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Mar 13, 2019 8:22 PM
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traed said:
RT reported incorrect information. I only see 8 or 9 dead in all other sources I'm finding but that's just in English
https://www.apnews.com/931c1840bfe24a3ea076cf667fc77324
"School rampage in Brazil leaves 8 dead, many wounded"

"killing five students and two adults before one killed the other and then himself, authorities said"

"also shot and killed the owner of a used car business nearby before launching the attack on the school, authorities said."

5 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 10

This makes it 10. RT is correct. It's funny you talk shit about RT when you can't read or math.

I think the headline of your article doesn't include the 2 perpetrators in the count of 8.
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5layer said:
traed said:
RT reported incorrect information. I only see 8 or 9 dead in all other sources I'm finding but that's just in English
https://www.apnews.com/931c1840bfe24a3ea076cf667fc77324
"School rampage in Brazil leaves 8 dead, many wounded"

"killing five students and two adults before one killed the other and then himself, authorities said"

"also shot and killed the owner of a used car business nearby before launching the attack on the school, authorities said."

5 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 10

This makes it 10. RT is correct. It's funny you talk shit about RT when you can't read or math.

I think the headline of your article doesn't include the 2 perpetrators in the count of 8.

This is what RT said

"Another shooting occurred shortly before the massacre in the vicinity of the school, when a person was injured during an apparent robbery attempt. It was not immediately clear whether the two incidents were linked."

How they had written it made it sound like all 10 were in the school.
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traed said:
5layer said:
"School rampage in Brazil leaves 8 dead, many wounded"

"killing five students and two adults before one killed the other and then himself, authorities said"

"also shot and killed the owner of a used car business nearby before launching the attack on the school, authorities said."

5 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 10

This makes it 10. RT is correct. It's funny you talk shit about RT when you can't read or math.

I think the headline of your article doesn't include the 2 perpetrators in the count of 8.

This is what RT said

"Another shooting occurred shortly before the massacre in the vicinity of the school, when a person was injured during an apparent robbery attempt. It was not immediately clear whether the two incidents were linked."

How they had written it made it sound like all 10 were in the school.

Just admit you were wrong. Why are you trying to justify your mistake? You're conveniently ignoring that your own article counts up to 10 and so does RT and you made the mistake counting.
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5layer said:
traed said:

This is what RT said

"Another shooting occurred shortly before the massacre in the vicinity of the school, when a person was injured during an apparent robbery attempt. It was not immediately clear whether the two incidents were linked."

How they had written it made it sound like all 10 were in the school.

Just admit you were wrong. Why are you trying to justify your mistake? You're conveniently ignoring that your own article counts up to 10 and so does RT and you made the mistake counting.


I'm not wrong. I was merely pointing out how RT falsely included an event before the schooting as part of the shooting and didn't report that person's death but only an injury of someone so how they were incorrect in how they came to 10 count. It's a reasonable mistake in assumption they had. It's just not a very good report of events.
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Mar 13, 2019 9:45 PM

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by the way, the business owner was Guilherme's uncle, and yes he was shot by Guilherme himself.
he later died at the hospital.

Jorge Antonio de Moraes, proprietário da Jorginho Veículos, foi baleado pelo sobrinho, Guilherme Taucci, de 17 anos, em seu escritório, dentro da loja.

https://g1.globo.com/sp/mogi-das-cruzes-suzano/noticia/2019/03/13/tio-de-um-dos-assassinos-de-suzano-foi-baleado-antes-de-ataque-a-escola.ghtml
this is messed up. (the whole thing is messed up). assuming the article is accurate, Guillherme went to his uncle business, went to his office inside the store and killed him before turning his attention to the school students.
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Mar 13, 2019 9:50 PM

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traed said:
5layer said:

Just admit you were wrong. Why are you trying to justify your mistake? You're conveniently ignoring that your own article counts up to 10 and so does RT and you made the mistake counting.


I'm not wrong. I was merely pointing out how RT falsely included an event before the schooting as part of the shooting and didn't report that person's death but only an injury of someone so how they were incorrect in how they came to 10 count. It's a reasonable mistake in assumption they had. It's just not a very good report of events.

Cringe.

traed said:
I only see 8 or 9 dead in all other sources I'm finding but that's just in English
https://www.apnews.com/931c1840bfe24a3ea076cf667fc77324

You said you only see 8 or 9 dead and you linked a source with 10 dead. You clearly counted wrong. You still won't admit it and that sort of thing says a lot about a person. I wonder if you'll admit you were wrong or you'll continue to justify your mistake to yourself by rewording yourself or approaching from other angles that make it easier to lie to yourself.
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Not like the climate in Brazil is going to improve, didnt they recently elect a fucking fascist? GOOD JOB, BRAZIL, GOOD JOB
Mar 14, 2019 5:03 AM
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dizzyur said:
(...) didnt they recently elect a fucking fascist?


Ha ha very funny, Mr. Jones.
Mar 14, 2019 5:29 PM

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Necroshade_ said:
dizzyur said:
Not like the climate in Brazil is going to improve, didnt they recently elect a fucking fascist? GOOD JOB, BRAZIL, GOOD JOB

fascist lol
Bolsonaro is a literal neocon
Which means the same shit.
Mar 14, 2019 5:42 PM

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this is why you don't bully people in school

you are nothing but an insect when staring down the barrel of a gun

why the crossbow tho
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Mar 14, 2019 6:05 PM

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update: there was one more guy involved in the school shooting. according to police, the 17-year old was the mastermind behind the attack, and they are currently waiting for an arrest warrant from the justice department. apparently the trio were already planning the school shooting since at least November. police is investigating if the trio were incited by forums in the Deep Web. the bow and arrow and other stuff were bought straight from Mercado Livre...which is basically the Ebay or the Craiglist of Brazil.
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Mar 15, 2019 10:22 AM
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zzzeally said:
this is why you don't bully people in school

you are nothing but an insect when staring down the barrel of a gun

why the crossbow tho



but actualy the guys were incels, chan etc
they were nnot just bullied guys
it has a lot to do with toxic masculinity

years ago a similar case happened in Brazil, in Realengo / Rio de Janeiro. The guy shot the girls' forehead to kill. He threw the boys' legs and arms, just to hurt. He was from the same darkweb group. It's more than just bully
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Fars as i know Brazil is trying to militarize their schools in some places.
TBH i'm all against military schools but it would make kids safer.
I remember when i lived inside the base with my mother, it was so safe that she would let me play outside and leave to work and i was only 4 YO.
i explored the whole accessible part of the base alone without being harmed by anybody because the MP was everywhere thou.
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